Baku has started flirting with the East, the USA threatens. What developments are expected in the South Caucasus?

"Detq's" interlocutor is Tiran Lokmagyozyan, an expert on regional issues.

"There are active political processes in the region. Presidential elections were held in Iran a few days ago, and within the framework of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization summit held in Astana, the Putin-Erdogan meeting brought to the fore the existing problems between these states, Baku signed a declaration of strategic partnership with China, etc. What impact will these developments have on the South Caucasus, particularly on Armenia?"

"Let me start with Turkey-Russia relations. There was a time when these relations improved, and even many analysts stated with confidence that it was over: Turkey had sided with Russia, Russia was helping Turkey, etc. However, I have always said that the relations between Turkey and Russia will not be good, that they are temporary in nature due to their interests. NATO and the West will never let Turkey turn to Russia.

Now we see that the relations between these states have become strained, and this is natural, because there was pressure on Turkey from the western side. Ankara was the last bridge for the West with Russia, but already Turkey went too far and was pressured. Turkey is now taking a step back, and due to this, of course, Russia is also taking its step.

On the other hand, because now Turkey cannot have the same relations with Russia, it is replaced by the Republic of Baku (ed.). The latter began to "silibilize" with China and Russia, and this is beneficial to Russia, because it needs new ways and new supporters due to European pressure. In the end, it should be accepted that politics is not only black and white, there are different colors, and it is not possible to discuss these relations with the logic of black and white.

Against this background, Iranian developments are also interesting. Azeris in Iran participated in the presidential elections there with great enthusiasm, although the participation rate of the general population was not that high. It had an impact on the election of the president. In Iran, although the president cannot deviate from the chosen path, the image of the president may be important in some issues, for example, depending on the given person, Iran's relations with Ankara and Baku will definitely improve."

"In other words, are new challenges being created for Armenia in the region? What do we have to do?"

"Yes, especially since we have a government that does not work for us, but promotes the interests of our enemies, therefore there are many challenges. Apart from that, changes are taking place all over the world, for example the elections in France, presidential elections are also expected in the USA in the future. Especially the elections of the United States will be decisive, will have a great importance on the politics of the whole world. If the ruling party changes, another one comes to power, the entire US policy can be turned upside down, as happened, say, during the election of Trump. If today the United States, for example, puts pressure on Russia or Turkey, tomorrow that pressure will disappear altogether."

"In recent months, a number of high-ranking US officials visited Yerevan and Baku. Washington is actively promoting the idea of ​​a peace treaty, which, however, we see, is not to Baku's liking. What about these processes, what to expect in the near future?"

"Of course, America is behind all these processes, it is Biden's policy. They have their plan to establish a new order in the world, but this process must proceed step by step. One of the first of those steps was to connect Ankara and Baku, because their ultimate plan is to build Turan. If we imagine that a state is built from Turkey to the border of China, behind which the USA stands, we will imagine the scale of it all. Imagine Russia to the north, China to the east, India and Iran to the south. Those great states of the East will first be cut off from each other, then they will have no way, and therefore they will be able to solve their issues individually. Today, the first strikes are against Russia. The second strike will go in the direction of Iran.

The only obstacle to this plan is Armenia, and it was like that 100 years ago, Armenia stood in the way of Turan. That's why they solved the issues of Armenia first, convinced Baku through Erdogan, cleared Artsakh of Armenians, which, of course, had something to do with the north of Iran, but nothing to do with us. However, Aliyev also had his interests in all of that.
As I said, there is a government in Armenia that is moving the process forward, but here a new problem has arisen: Aliyev's appetite has been whetted, and now he does not want to sign the so-called "peace treaty", because if it is signed, that's it, he will no longer be able to make demands. : That is why he has been meeting with American officials lately. They saw that Aliyev was going too far, they started to put pressure on him, O'Brien went, met, talked. However, let me repeat that Baku is doing everything to delay the so-called "peace agreement" in order to implement all its plans until it is signed.

A few days ago, a direct threat was sounded from America in the direction of Baku, the US deputy who came to Armenia threatened that those states that have started developing relations with Russia should know that it will end badly. This was just a threat, let's see what Aliyev will do. This looks like a game, we have to wait and see who can develop the game."