Those maps that they print do not even leave 1000 km2 space for Armenia. Azerbaijan's plans are more than simple. Ara Papyan

The interlocutor of "Detq" is Ara Papyan, member of the NDA Council, diplomat.

"Due to border demarcation works in Tavush, the situation remains tense. The day before yesterday, the law enforcement officers, using brute force, detained the Kyryntian men blocking the road. What do you say about the current situation and do you see the prospect of these actions becoming large-scale?"

"This is a consequence of the political line of Nikol Pashinyan and his administration that if we meet the demands of Azerbaijan, then we will have peace. That is fundamentally wrong. However, they toe the line and use brute force along the way. They have adopted the policy that the borders of Soviet Armenia are based, as if what is Soviet Armenia is only Armenian, and they also use a very controversial map for demarcation.

Unfortunately, I have to say that most of the people are indifferent. All efforts, including by our structure, to involve more people, do not give significant results, we have a stable number of our supporters, but not more than that. On the other hand, the authorities have a special interest in us, cars are stopped on the road, they are not allowed to continue on the road, cars are taken into custody and kept for hours, etc. Unfortunately, if there is no popular uprising, Nikol Pashinyan will not only give these 4 villages, but after this, you know, there is the issue of the 4 enclaves, the issue of the villages of Vardenis, the issue of the return of Azerbaijanis and compensations. But one thing must be clearly understood: it is never possible to satisfy Azerbaijanis and Turks, no matter how much we make concessions, their demands are increasing day by day."